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gross losses, net gains
www.riseandfalloftheinternet.com
by jael mchenry fan
4.3.02
pop culture

printable : w/comments

The Internet has failed.

And it has also succeeded in wonderful, tremendous, world-changing ways.

In 1994, when my friend Steve first showed me a home page, I didn't know what to think. I didn't really know what it was. Seven years and change (lots of change) later, every print ad shows the company's URL, you can pay bills and buy books and auction used makeup on the 'net, and we're getting to the point where even being wired is sadly obsolete next to being wireless.

It's pretty amazing.

People predicted that the internet would change the world. And it has. (Parts of the world, anyway.) But maybe not in all the ways predicted, and maybe not as much as we'd like to think. To coin a phrase, it's worse than you might hope but better than you might fear.

Success: boards, and boards. Online communities allow people with similar interests to come together and talk about the things they love without, y'know, boring their friends who don't care.

Failure: boards, and boards. It seems like there's a critical mass, a point of saturation where things just start sucking. A bad apple always worms its way into the barrel. Because in space, it's easy to be a bad apple, because no one knows you or sees your face or lives next door to your mother.

Success: supplementing. Like I said before, every print ad has the URL in it now, for people who want to dig up further information. Radio and TV ads do the same thing. And to step beyond advertising and entertainment for a moment, remember the heady days of 1999, when everyone was leaving established companies for startups, ditching the sure paycheck for the chance at astronomical gains in a cushy environment? Now, some people (like five) still work at the Fool, but everybody else is still working for the Man, same as we ever were. Not to mention those who predicted that books would be made obsolete by the web. There's still publishing: fabulous, exclusive, whimsical. And writing on a ‘net page is like writing on a paper page, only with funky hyperlinks that change the shape of what can be done with words, multiplying the possibilities like the much-treasured Choose Your Own Adventure.

Failure: replacing. Forecasts said the 'net would kill television, kill radio, kill newspapers. It ain't happened, people. Guess what: there's still a Washington Post, there's still Variety, there's still ABC and NBC and, love it or hate it, UPN. The death of the networks, should it happen, will be cable's fault, not ours. There's new stuff. But all the old stuff is still there.

Success: the wide world of entertainment within the 'net. More information about every little thing that crosses the small screen and the silver screen is readily available. Read, for example, about TV, which in many cases is better than actually watching it. Look at Oscar dresses from one angle or another.

Failure: the internet out in the wide world of entertainment; or, Harry Frickin' Knowles. He gives the rest of us a bad name. Much of the "legitimate" entertainment industry views 'net hounds as fat, punchy nerds who couldn't string a sentence together if you spotted them the string. But I've written about this before. Which leads me to...

Success: if anyone were interested in things I wrote, it would be easy to find them here and here and of course here.

Failure: if anyone were interested in the billions of things I typed into usenet when I was bored after graduation and working temp jobs, it's easy to find them here and here and here. It’s only a failure, anyway, from certain perspectives. Some would call it the death of privacy. I don't mind it. Then again, I don't use the internet as a confessional. If I wouldn't want my boss or my mom or my boyfriend to see it, I wouldn't put it up. Because...

The Big Success: information. Easier to find and retrieve. I used to think I was the only person named Jael. But they're everywhere, in Utah and New Jersey and Texas and Budapest, and if I wanted to visit any of them, I could easily book a flight.

I can find out what the guy I was crushing on a couple years ago actually looks like. I can find out what one ex or another has been up to.

And then there are the freaky bits.

The Big Failure: advertising. Oh yes, it's the big failure. For one thing, an ad on the internet is like a needle in a needle stack. Can't trust that anyone will find it, let alone believe it or use it or click on it. Movie promotion over the internet has been a particularly ticklish business. While much of the fabulous success of The Blair Witch Project was initially attributed to its innovative Internet site, no movie since has replicated that success, suggesting that other factors may have been largely responsible for people coming out in droves to get motion sickness from a bouncing camera. What other innovative 'net movie campaigns have there been? Why, The Center of the World, of course. Never heard of it? Exactly. And A.I.? See how well that worked. The moviegoing public is, of course, a bunch of idiots, and would rather see A Beautiful Mind than Memento, but it would take more than just a Revolution to change Hollywood.



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tracey kelley
4.3.02 @ 8:44a

Heeeey, I saw both Memento and A Beautiful Mind.

One of the successes you mentioned really rings with true with me: the information you can dig up. Aside from dinkin' around on the Intrepid site, that's where half my leisure time goes - finding out "stuff" online.

Or verifying trivia.
off to look into June Foray and see what she's been up to lately...

mike julianelle
4.3.02 @ 9:08a

The moviegoing public is, of course, a bunch of idiots. LOVELY.

I am disappointed that porn was neglected in this piece. The way I see it, the net is 65% useless info, 25% maze, and 10% porn.

michelle von euw
4.3.02 @ 9:25a

This is the most fun column I've ever read in my life.

Hank Stuever!!!


jael mchenry
4.3.02 @ 9:27a

Bad hat, isn't it?

mike julianelle
4.3.02 @ 2:15p

The Internet failed, alright. All day today it failed! Jeez!

jael mchenry
4.3.02 @ 2:20p

I think it was getting back at me.

Good internet. Nice internet. [Pat pat pat.]

adam kraemer
4.3.02 @ 2:21p

I was going to say something, but Mike beat me to it.

joe procopio
4.3.02 @ 2:26p

I hate the internet. Thank you.

mike julianelle
4.3.02 @ 2:33p

This reminds me of a great line in Black Rain, which really isn't that great of a line, I just loved it as a kid. Delivered by Mike D. himself: "Fuck you very much!"

sarah ficke
4.3.02 @ 2:50p

You must have been reading my mind, Jael. It was only a few days ago that I was remembering the time when I didn't know how the internet worked. And my first exposure, which was looking up recepies for drugged brownies with kids from my school class. In the school library. What a great invention.

jael mchenry
4.3.02 @ 2:51p

My first real computer experience was playing that one fish game on the Apple IIE in the school library, so it's not far off.

Well, okay, maybe it is. ;)

sarah ficke
4.3.02 @ 3:04p

My first actual computer experience was playing with that program that used a turtle to draw lines on the screen. Logo, I think was the name.

mike julianelle
4.3.02 @ 3:06p

Logo! I used that. When my family got a PC at home, we had a game called Oo Topos, which was all about escaping a alien prison. Hard game. But it was all "go left", "YOU CANNOT GO LEFT" type of stuff. Total crap now.

matt morin
4.3.02 @ 3:09p

Things I wish I didn't admit:

I used to know BASIC programming.

I played countless hours of Zork.

And my friend's PC Jr. was the coolest thing ever.

mike julianelle
4.3.02 @ 3:12p

I knew Basic. We had a CLASS on BASIC in elementary school! Mr. Zandri, that bastard. Zork never appealed to me. All text!

sarah ficke
4.3.02 @ 3:17p

We used to have a game about traveling through an alien planet that had that "YOU CANNOT GO LEFT" stuff. And after all of the crap and talking to gigantic ears and drinking alien cola and walking down paths in the woods, we always ended up being eaten by a monster. I wish I could remember the name of the game so I could go kill the bastards who designed it and added all of that frustration to my childhood.

matt morin
4.3.02 @ 3:29p

Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?

And Jael, I'm surprised you didn't mention e-mail as an Internet success.

russ carr
4.3.02 @ 3:33p

I had HG2G on my Commodore 128. Rock!

E-mail predates the Internet...sorta.

I commend Jael's interactivity. Back in its infancy, that was the big deal about the net -- being able to embed live cross-references from one document to another in something called "hypertext." Now we just call 'em links, and they're often embedded in pictures for all you illiterates out there.

But I would chide Jael on her lack of credit to Al Gore. One tool begets another -- thanks, Al!

jael mchenry
4.3.02 @ 3:45p

One tool begets another. Ha!

Okay, maybe I shoulda said web instead of net, because I do love Email and no one can deny its success.

Matt, I think I beat you. I bought the Basic Programming attachments for my Atari.

The links took a loooong time, and as one of my critiquers (aka critics) pointed out, when you come back to the column from a link, it can be hard to remember where you left off.

However, I'm sure the critic wasn't honestly trying to remain anonymous, since anonymous critics don't say things like "No one wants to sleep with Chris Weinkopf."

adam kraemer
4.3.02 @ 3:52p

HG2G - "Kneel." "You can't kneel. At least not right now you can't."

And, Jael, that wasn't me.

Okay, maybe it was.

jael mchenry
4.3.02 @ 4:02p

Did that ever make it into an article or was it just one of the funniest emails I ever wrote?

adam kraemer
4.3.02 @ 4:05p

I seem to recall you asked us specifically not to print it. Something about not wanting everyone to know the "Top 10 Reasons Why Jael Isn't Getting Any."

Why we acceeded to your wishes is still a mystery.

jael mchenry
4.3.02 @ 4:06p

Perhaps I didn't want anyone to know I wasn't getting any? A distinct possibility.

adam kraemer
4.3.02 @ 4:07p

Well, that's why you asked. In retrospect, I still should have run it.

jael mchenry
4.3.02 @ 4:09p

I don't remember any of the other reasons, but if they were all as funny as the chart-topper, yeah, you should've.

rachel kennerly
4.3.02 @ 7:48p

I hope you're not too terribly disappointed that my dog shares your name. :)

rachel kennerly
4.3.02 @ 7:51p

I hope you're not too terribly disappointed that my dog shares your name. :)

matt morin
4.3.02 @ 7:54p

DA HA HA HA!

I'm assuming she's a mutt.

adam kraemer
4.3.02 @ 8:21p

I'd actually be happier to think that I share your dog's name.

Wait a minute, Matt...she?

[edited]

robert melos
4.4.02 @ 12:41a

I saw Momento and loved it, but hated A Beautiful Mind. Now you know why I'm not sitting opposite Ebert pontificating on what Hollywood offers the viewing public, and chowing down on stale popcorn.

jael mchenry
4.4.02 @ 9:18a

Actually, Matt, she's a Rottweiler. 'Nuff said.

(If you followed the links...)

Robert, I'm with you, but I've gotten a little flak for using A Beautiful Mind as my counterexample. I'm just anti-sentimental, and ABM is highly sentimental, and was so mainstream vs. Memento, the sidestream.

mike julianelle
4.4.02 @ 9:26a

Wait. You're anti-sentimental? No!

michelle von euw
4.4.02 @ 9:29a

Jael, if you wrote, "The moviegoing public is, of course, full of sentimental fools, and would rather see A Beautiful Mind than Memento," then the contrast would have made sense. But since you used "idiots," The Mummy II or one of the other big budget dumbfests would have worked better.

But that's total nitpicking, because other than that, I loved this column.

mike julianelle
4.4.02 @ 9:33a

The part about the public being fools is my favorite. I kind of assumed it's a reference to Adam. Is that right?

jael mchenry
4.4.02 @ 9:38a

It's a joke I have with my friend Jon. Not sure where/when it started.

Might I add: Kissing Jessica Stein was wonderful. (Let the jokes begin if you insist, Mike and Adam.)

adam kraemer
4.4.02 @ 9:40a

I actually know a girl named Jessica Stein. I've never kissed her. My friend Jan, however, has, and I would imagine he'd agree that it's wonderful.

mike julianelle
4.4.02 @ 9:45a

Hey, I like good movies, regardless of genre. I'm not going to see it, but I have no problems accepting that it's enjoyable.

jael mchenry
4.4.02 @ 6:01p

It wasn't genre humor. It was gerund (and gender) humor. A la "I enjoyed inventing the Abbots" or "I enjoyed being John Malkovich" or "I saw the man who wasn't there."

adam kraemer
4.4.02 @ 6:09p

Or "I'm watching 'the Game.'" That one always gets me. "What game?"

jael mchenry
4.11.02 @ 1:55p

I only saw pieces and parts of The Game. I'm not a Fincherianado a la Mike. And I used to have a major anti-Michael Douglas bone to pick. Wonder Boys was partial redemption.

mike julianelle
4.11.02 @ 2:01p

Wonder Boys is great. Very different part for Douglas. The Game rules.

adam kraemer
4.11.02 @ 2:26p

What he said.

russ carr
4.11.02 @ 2:26p

Every day, in every way, I'm convinced more and more that Jael and I were separated at birth. I also have a Michael Douglas burr in my britches. I think I might've enjoyed the game if it had been anyone but him in it. I'd rather read than rent Wonder Boys, despite Tobey Maguire and RDjr.

mike julianelle
4.11.02 @ 2:56p

How can you hate Mike D.? After Fatal Attraction he grabbed every coke-head sex-fiend bad-ass millionare role out there. He is HILARIOUS in Basic Instinct ("I'll knock your fucking teeth in!!!"). He is great in Wall Street, great in Romancing the Stone (a type of role he has never tried again), he is excellent in Wonder Boys, great in Traffic, great in The Game (and perfect for it)...I don't love him, but he's a good actor, takes some chances and risky roles, and has done some hilarious stuff. He's also a sex addict. The guy has it all!

adam kraemer
4.11.02 @ 3:16p

And I was watching "The American President" the other night - Sorkin's writing is great, and he's very good in it. "Perhaps I didn't properly explain the fundamentals of the slowdown plan."

russ carr
4.11.02 @ 3:26p

I can hate Michael Douglas like you can hate Moby.

mike julianelle
4.11.02 @ 3:35p

Well, at least provide a reason, like I did for that bald-headed prick. Movie is a bit cheesy and "for the people", like The WW, but Sorkin knows how to pump you up and that final speech is great! "My name is Andrew Shepherd and I AM the President."

jael mchenry
4.11.02 @ 3:45p

I, too, enjoyed The American President. Can't explain it. Maybe it's just the fine running undercurrent of Sorkinism.

Let me flesh out the bits of Mike D that Mike J glossed over: Disclosure, The Ghost and the Darkness (with Val Kilmer, more's the pity), Falling Down, A Perfect Murder...

and he didn't do a damn thing in Traffic. Blended in with the blue.

mike julianelle
4.11.02 @ 3:48p

Falling Down is a GOOD movie, I fail to see how that supports your claim. Name me one actor who never made a bad movie, besides James Dean. And don't say Ed Norton, because Smoochy is a PIECE of shit.

adam kraemer
4.11.02 @ 3:59p

And Rounders wasn't exactly electrifying, either.

mike julianelle
4.11.02 @ 4:03p

I like Rounders. Nothing great, but very watchable/rewatchable, some great lines, and Malki is hilarious! Cool movie.

russ carr
4.11.02 @ 4:15p

I think it's entirely possible to be a good actor with a good performance in a bad movie. Norton was the only redemption in Rounders. I was ready to write off John Malkovich after that one. Michael Douglas has played Michael Douglas in every movie he's ever made. I don't think he's grown as an actor since The Streets of San Francisco. He learned that one style, and got stuck. Any remaining love I might've had for The American President has been leeched away by Sorkin's lack of range in The West Wing (aka TAP 2).

mike julianelle
4.11.02 @ 4:18p

Mike D. is completely different in Wall Street than he is in Wonder Boys. And Rounders is quite entertaining. Some actors are stars and some stars are actors. Harrison Ford is an actor who's a star. He hasn't grown as an actor in the slightest, and that doesn't prevent him from being good. Or didn't prevent him from being good, until he started picking shite roles in the last decade.

jael mchenry
4.11.02 @ 4:31p

Further supporting the Russ-and-Jael-Separated-At-Birth Theory, I think there can be a good performance in a bad movie. There was nothing really wrong with Norton in either Smoochy or Rounders, but I didn't enjoy either movie much. But when I see a Douglas movie I dislike, he's what I dislike about it.

Notice me not even trying to defend John Cusack in America's Sweethearts or Serendipity. I know my limits.

russ carr
4.11.02 @ 4:34p

No argument there. Compare Witness and The Mosquito Coast to Air Force One and Six Days, Seven Nights...

mike julianelle
4.11.02 @ 4:37p

Hey, I agree, and I doubt most real film fans would disagree that there can be good performances in bad movies. I liked Norton in Smoochy too, tho the character went the wrong way I thought. I LOVE Witness and HATE Mosquito, Russ, and I do think Ford is great in Witness.

mike julianelle
4.11.02 @ 4:39p

For example, though it's not quite a BAD movie, Cate Blanchett is great in The Gift while the movie is decidedly mediocre. There are many, many more examples, but I about to leave.

russ carr
4.11.02 @ 4:40p

I didn't even bother seeing those two, Jael. The warning lights flashed well in advance. Mostly because of Billy Crystal for the former, at least.

I really tried to watch Traffic, but found it boring as hell. Mr and Mrs Douglas were two big reasons. Had it been stripped down to just Benicio Del Toro, it'd probably been worth something. And Topher Grace as a drug huffing delinquent? Chuckles abound.

mike julianelle
4.11.02 @ 4:41p

I didn't really like Zeta in it either, tho I thought Topher was pretty good, Erika Christensen was FANTASTIC, and Cheadle, Guzman and del Toro were all typically great as well.

mike julianelle
4.11.02 @ 4:48p

Oh, and how's this for good acting in a not-so-good movie? Russell Crowe in A Beautiful Mind. Ed Norton in Primal Fear. Michael Biehn in general. Hehe.

jael mchenry
4.11.02 @ 5:29p

I thought Topher was fantastic and was totally indifferent to Christensen. It's amazing, too, how good acting (Connelly in A Beautiful Mind) can exist in a lousy script.

Norton was the best thing about The Score, too.

michelle von euw
4.12.02 @ 9:41a

Primal Fear was great because it thought it was a Richard Gere movie but -- surprise! -- it turned out to be an Edward Norton one.

I hated Erika Christensen in Traffic. She ruined a good bit of the movie for me with her non-acting ability. Topher turned in an amazingly nuanced performance, however, completely different than his That 70s Show persona, which I appreciated. But I liked him better in Oceans 11.


mike julianelle
4.12.02 @ 9:44a

I am stunned that neither of you liked Christensen. Just cuz she's a Scientologist doesn't mean she sucked in Traffic! Topher impressed me as well.

michelle von euw
4.12.02 @ 9:52a

I have nothing against Scientologists not named Kirstie Alley. Christensen is the poor man's Julia Styles, and that's pretty sad.

Speaking of promising actors who take bad roles, what happened with Joseph Finnes? The man played Shakespeare -- then moved on to seduce Gretchen Mol away from Ray Liotta in an absolutely painful stinker called Forever Mine.

mike julianelle
4.12.02 @ 9:57a

Fiennes was nothing special in Shakespeare, and his brother OWNS him, acting wise. I still maintain Christensen is excellent in Traffic, and I hate all of you.

jael mchenry
4.12.02 @ 2:52p

Well, that's not new, that hating thing.

Fiennes was quite good in both Shakespeare and Elizabeth. Yes, and Michelle, after Gretchen Mol he (cinematically) went after Monica Potter, the poor man's Julia Roberts, in a movie called "The Very Thought of You." Quite awful. Saw it on a plane.

jael mchenry
4.18.02 @ 10:24a

Back in linkland, there's a nice interview with Christopher Nolan about Insomnia and Memento... here.

michelle von euw
4.18.02 @ 10:33a

The Potter flick was so bad, but I stuck with it because Finnes was quite charming and sweet and his acting was good, despite the horrible material. In the Mol movie, however, I wasn't so lucky. He wasn't playing a Brit, and had this deadly Brooklyn-Miami accent.

[edited]

jael mchenry
4.18.02 @ 10:43a

I think Mol is deadly in and of herself. Although she was okay in a thing I saw on cable... Swan was everybody's last name, and I wanted to see it because Jeremy Piven was billed somewhere in the first six... damn, I'm off to IMDB.

Here it is: Music From Another Room, also starring Jude Law. Mmmmm, Jude Law.

mike julianelle
4.18.02 @ 11:10a

Law's upcoming Alan Mendes(American Beauty)-directed, Tom Hanks-starring movie, Road to Perdition, is getting rave advance reviews, fyi.

michelle von euw
4.18.02 @ 11:15a

Jude Law + Joe Finnes = all the good parts of Enemy at the Gates

jael mchenry
4.18.02 @ 11:18a

Sam Mendes. If I like something with Tom Hanks in it, I'll be pleasantly surprised. But I'm sure it'll be beautiful.

mike julianelle
4.18.02 @ 11:22a

Sam Mendes, yeah. Alan Ball wrote it. It's supposed to be a bit of a departure for Hanks, he is playing a hitman after all.

michelle von euw
4.18.02 @ 11:27a

I'm groaning at the idea of Tom Hanks as a hitman.

jael mchenry
4.18.02 @ 11:28a

Departures are good. Another reason I'm looking forward to Insomnia and One Hour Photo; evil Robin Williams is infinitely preferable to nicey-nice Robin Williams.

You know who should play a nefarious criminal? Greg Kinnear. Or, I dunno, Jennifer Connelly. Anyone in danger of overnicing.

mike julianelle
4.18.02 @ 11:51a

Kinnear is playing Bob Crane from Hogan's Heroes, a bit of a degenerate. Hanks is a good actor, tho I don't like him that much, I'm sure he can pull it off.

russ carr
4.18.02 @ 12:18p

Kinnear, even when he's played nice (As Good As It Gets) suffers from an abundance of smarmy. That should help him with the Bob Crane biopic. Kinnear is the Mark Harmon of the '00s.

mike julianelle
4.18.02 @ 12:38p

Good call on the Mark Harmon!

jael mchenry
4.18.02 @ 1:18p

A remake of Summer School would really make my 2003.

Unlike the remake of Charade with Thandie Newton and Mark Wahlberg instead of Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant, which will probably make my lunch reappear.

russ carr
4.18.02 @ 1:30p

Oh, c'mon, Jael. Marky Mark is suave like shampoo..

mike julianelle
4.18.02 @ 2:00p

I'd like to think Marky Mark is a good actor. After all, he's great in Boogie Nights, decent in The Yards, good in Basketball Diaries, hilarious in Fear...I'm missing something big he was good in...but he makes bad choices and looks bad in them. Planet of the Apes? Garbaggio.

adam kraemer
4.18.02 @ 2:40p

Three Kings, I think, is what you're missing.

mike julianelle
4.18.02 @ 3:10p

Indeed, Three Kings. I like that movie very much.

jael mchenry
4.18.02 @ 3:29p

Marky Mark was good in what I've seen (Boogie Nights and Three Kings) but there's a charisma required to play a Cary Grant role. And comic timing. I have not seen him pull off either of those. Of course you can all imagine which two actors in their 30s I'd rather see being suave and witty.

mike julianelle
4.18.02 @ 3:31p

Yes, we all can. And I agree, but there's nobody out there who can pull off either Cary Grant or Audrey Hepburn. NOBODY. And Marky has struggled a bit since those two movies you mentioned.

russ carr
4.18.02 @ 3:32p

Tom Green and Adam Sandler?

jael mchenry
4.18.02 @ 3:49p

No one can be Cary Grant, of course, I'm just saying there are people we could depend on to get a little closer. What, you wouldn't want to see Naomi Watts or Jennifer Connelly try to be like Audrey?

mike julianelle
4.18.02 @ 3:55p

Well, sure, but I don't think they could do it. And I don't really think Cusack or Norton could do Grant well either. But, say, Owen Wilson and Eliza Dushku...I'm there.

jael mchenry
4.18.02 @ 3:59p

Now you're just being silly.

(Why do you think I left Eliza off the list? She's a tad, hmmm, pugnacious.)

mike julianelle
4.18.02 @ 4:17p

Hey! That's her characters!!! She's quite sweet in Bring It On. Fine then, Kirsten Dunst? She's a good actress, better than Dushku, and good-looking as well. But again, Audrey Hepburn is a singular creation, as is Mr. Cary Grant. Tho Tony Curtis' Grant in Some Like It Hot is hilariously dead-on.

russ carr
4.18.02 @ 5:12p

I like Dana Carvey's Cary Grant.

jael mchenry
4.19.02 @ 10:01a

I like Jim Carrey's Jimmy Stewart.

mike julianelle
4.19.02 @ 10:38a

Yeah, that's funny. Have you ever seen Kevin Spacey's Christopher Walken? How about K.S.'s Chris Walken doing Han Solo? HILARIOUS!! The two best Christopher Walken impressions are Spacey's and Jay Mohr's. FYI.

jael mchenry
4.19.02 @ 11:04a

"You haven't heard, of the Millenium Falcon, she made the Kessel Run, in twelve parsecs, she's fast enough for you, old man..."

Spacey rules.

russ carr
4.19.02 @ 11:06a

They both do excellent Chris Walkens. I haven't seen KS doing CW doing HS, tho, Mike...on what show did he do it?

Jay Mohr did a hilarious take on Walken reading "Goodnight Moon" to a bunch of preschoolers on The Simpsons...

jael mchenry
4.19.02 @ 11:10a

SNL. There was also Darrell Hammond as Richard Dreyfuss as Chewbacca and Ana Gasteyer as Barbara Streisand as Princess Leia. ("HelpmeObiWanKenobiyou'remyonlyhope.")

mike julianelle
4.19.02 @ 11:12a

It was on Saturday Night live, they did fake audition clips for the original Star Wars, they had Spacey doing Walken doing Solo, a cast member doing Richard Dreyfus as C3PO, Spacey as Matthau doing Obi-Wan, Norm McDonald doing Burt Reynolds as Darth Vader!! It was fucking hilarious.

And yeah, that Goodnight Moon was great! "Goodnight. MOON."

russ carr
4.19.02 @ 11:15a

I have only the slightest inkling that I might have caught that, but I don't think so. SNL lost me in the late 80s. But I make a point to tune in when Walken's hosting. Cowbell, baby!

mike julianelle
4.19.02 @ 11:27a

SNL sucks. SUCKS. it's painful. You want a good sketch comedy show? Mr. Show. PURE BRILLIANCE. So Funny. On DVD June 11. It's the BEST.

jael mchenry
8.6.02 @ 4:14p

Okay, I just saw my ex-boyfriend's wife's sonogram.

The internet may have officially gone too far.

adam kraemer
8.6.02 @ 5:35p

I know it's a conversation from a while ago, but Goodnight Moon was great.
"Children what did I tell you about the scootching?"

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